Antedating of "JAP"

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Mon Dec 29 03:08:06 UTC 2008


Using Google I found this:

"According to Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities at pp. 807-08
(19th Ed. 1977), Iota Alpha Pi was the oldest national college sorority
founded by Jewish women.  It was founded at Hunter(then Normal) College in
New York in March, 1903."

So, should we conclude that JAP was in use in 1903?

Fred Shapiro



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-Herman Wouk may have originated the type if not the actual term in Marjorie
Morningstar in 1945 but I believe the term preceded the novel. In the early
forties there was an informal sorority of Jew ish girls call Iota Alpha Pi,
there being no J  in greek, the Iota was the closest they could get to
JAP.....Jerome Foster, Los Osos, CA
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> Surely this is very late?!?  Unless I'm hallucinating, I first
> encountered this term in the late 40s early 50s.
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> On Dec 27, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
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>> OED and HDAS have 1972 as their first use for _J.A.P._ 'Jewish
>> American Princess.'  Google Books gives the following, probably
>> authentic occurrence:
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>> Transatlantic Review├Ż - Page 69
>> 1969-70
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>> To my Jap - my Jewish American Princess.
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>> I have not, however, verified this in the original.
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>> Fred Shapiro
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