does anyone need another example of positive ANYMORE?

Benjamin Barrett gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Thu Feb 14 07:08:50 UTC 2008

I have heard this sort of joke. I always interpreted it more along the
lines of a person of an oppressed group finally having a way to get
even. Kind of a "hah-hah". I got YOU this time. And if it's Tonto, all
the better, for being called stupid. My interpretation is surely a
reinterpretation based on changing times. BB

Wilson Gray wrote:
> I heard the punchline ca.1944 as "What you mean, 'we,' white man?" And
> no mention was made of weapons. Of course, such jokes have many
> different versions. I heard it in Saint Louis from a white neighbor
> boy and I took its point to be that, when the deal goes down, white
> people can not trust the non-white and I didn't find it humorous at
> all.
> -Wilson
> On 2/14/08, James Harbeck <jharbeck at> wrote:
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>>> BTW, I am indeed white. I've only been called paleface in Makah, though,
>>  >never in English. BB
>> The line "Whaddya mean 'we,' paleface?" is from a joke -- I thought I
>>  had mentioned it here before, but I am perhaps mistaken. It goes like
>>  this: The Lone Ranger and Tonto are holed up in a high crag, on the
>>  run from large numbers of highly irritated Indians who, perhaps, have
>>  wearied of being targets for LR's bullets. The look to the north:
>>  Indians. To the south: Indians. To the east: Indians. To the west:
>>  ...uh... yup, more Indians. LR turns to Tonto and says, "Well, Tonto,
>>  looks like we're surrounded." Tonto turns, reaches for his weapon,
>>  and says, "Whaddya mean 'we,' paleface?"
>>  James Harbeck, who is probably even paler than you (and occasionally
>>  beyond the pale). Even if he did grow up on and near an Indian
>>  reserve.

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