yonder - English or Irish?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jun 23 02:41:59 UTC 2008

The fact of the matter is that I once took a course in Irish from a
native speaker of the Munster dialect. So, what I should have said is
that "Shule Aroon" is a reasonable eye-phonetic rendition of _Siul a

All that I know of the actual tune(s) is contained within this thread.

My apologies.


On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> At 6/22/2008 12:32 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
>>Well, "Siul a riun" certainly sounds a lot like Shule Aroon.
> Wilson, you've listened to both melodies?  :-)
> In any case, this is additional evidence that the song was
> unboubtedly written about the girlfriend of an Irish supporter of
> King James who left for service in the undoubtedly Catholic army of
> France in 1690 or 1691.
> Joel
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