freten by sowe

[Wilson Gray]

Whoa! I got two versions of the message at once, one in which
"fraetan" is gibberish and another in which "FRashTAN" is perfectly
clear.

I don't understand your point. There's not sufficient semantic
distinction between "eat up" and "eat like an animal," it seems to me,
to make a claim about them.

-Wilson

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM,  <RonButters at aol.com> wrote:
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>  I think this comes from {for-} + {eten}, where {for-} is the common PIE=20
>  destructive prefix. Isn't the German distinction a later development from=20
>  Proto-Germanic? I think in OE, "FR=C6TAN" just meant 'eat up' (cf. "fugeles=20=
>  komen and hit=20
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> fraetan" in the Bible). Of course, birds are not people.
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>  In a message dated 3/2/08 2:48:27 PM, hwgray at GMAIL.COM writes:
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>  > Whoa! Now, I'm *really* glad that I didn't get out of the car while
>  > pigs were loose! But, seriously, folks, couldn't "freten" merely mean
>  > "eat, of animals," like German "fressen"?
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> > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>  > >=A0 At 3/2/2008 10:08 AM, William Salmon wrote:
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>  > >=A0 <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">There's a horrifying l=
>  ine in The
>  > >=A0 Knight's Tale about a pig eating a
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>  > >=A0 The sowe freten the child right in the cradel...</blockquote>
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>  > >=A0 I assume "freten" (fressen) rather than (?) "eten&quot=
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>  > >=A0 (essen) to make it more horrifying?
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