"the" before country name

Katharine The Grate KatharineTheGrate at COMCAST.NET
Mon May 12 02:20:06 UTC 2008


People used to say "the Congo".
>
> But "the United States of America" is just the formal political name of =
> the American state, and the formal political name typically is preceded =
> by "the."  E.g., the Commonwealth of Australia, the Kingdom of Belgium, =
> the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Union of =
> Soviet Socialist Republics.  There may or may not be a corresponding =
> country name that can be used without "the"; there was none, for =
> example, with the Soviet Union (only Russia, which for political reasons =
> could not be used as such until the Soviet Union's dissolution).
> =20
> We say America, not the America.  (I put aside for now the ambiguity of =
> "America," which can refer either to the USA or to North and South =
> America.)  The Netherlands and (formerly) the Ukraine are the only =
> examples of country names with "the" that come to mind.  The =
> Netherlanders also choose to call their seat of government The Hague, =
> which always struck me as even more anomalous.
> =20
> =20
> John Baker
> =20
>
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> From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Mark Mandel
> Sent: Sun 5/11/2008 3:25 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: "the" before country name
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Your Name <ROSESKES at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> If "the" before a country's name is belittling, why is there not one =
> single
>> American objecting to "the United States"?
>>
>> Rosemarie
>
>
> Because we chose that name ourselves? And consequently it describes us =
> as we
> want to see ourselves, rather than as 'the border territory'?
>
> --
> Mark Mandel
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