Daub (Mud dauber)

[Paul A Johnston, Jr.]

Tom,
You really need to learn more about both American and British dialects.
1.  Fact One: Southern (as opposed to South Midland) dialects AND AAVE are traditionally /r/-dropping., inclyding East Texas  It is true that in many parts of the South, this trait is recessive.  You've lived in Florida; there are non-rhotic areas there, though these days (outside of AAVE) they are mostly where the tourists don't go.  You've lived in Connecticut; traditionally, the whole eastern part of the state is non-rhotic.  And we all know about Hudson County, New Jersey--a place where [d^It] might still live.  (My impression is that [^I] holds itself even better in places like Bayonne than in Brooklyn.)  Non-rhoticity is traditionally a LOT commoner than you think.
2.  Fact Two: there isn't a single British dialect that would have [d^It]--that kind of upgliding diphthong formation is strictly American, as far as I know--which makes its origins all the more mysterious, as there's no substratum that can explain it.

Paul Johnston
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From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: Daub (Mud dauber)

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> dirt [d^It] ?   Would that be a UK pronunciation guide or do E
> Texan's drop their "r"s too.
> m-w.com = dirt  Pronunciation: \ˈdərt\
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> > Where I'm from in E TX, this insect, for some reason, is called a
> > "dirt [d^It] dauber," though it clearly daubs mud, as any fool can
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> > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Dave Hause  wrote:
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> >> I'm familiar with a wasp called a mud dauber (and that's the
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> >> in the NOAD by my chair.) Where does a bird go by that name?
> Species?>> Dave Hause, dwhause at jobe.net
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> >> "Daub" includes dealing with liquids that way; but consider the
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> >> a mud-dauber; it daubs a solid (tho somewhat moist) substance.
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