LGBTT2IQQA

Scot LaFaive slafaive at GMAIL.COM
Thu May 22 15:06:30 UTC 2008


I'm all for the spirit of letting others live as they feel they must,
but wow, this seems an unnecessary mouthful. Or is it the wave of the
future, a future full acronyms and coded initialisms? WMFGWWTSMDIHHO??

Scot

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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> It's the English that seemed pretty recent to me, but maybe it was the
> concept as you say. BB
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> On May 21, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Mark Mandel wrote:
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>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen two-spirit in connection with Native Americans in the US. I
>>> don't know if it's used outside that context. Wikipedia has it as
>>> well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_spirit, which says it
>>> originated in 1990. That seems pretty recent to me. BB
>>
>> To be precise, the Wikipedia article asserts 1990 origin of the
>> English "two-spirit", not of its etymon:
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>> "Two-spirit" originated in Winnipeg, Canada in 1990 during the third
>> annual intertribal Native American/First Nations gay and lesbian
>> conference. It is a calque of the Ojibwa phrase niizh manidoowag (two
>> spirits). It was chosen to distance Native/First Nations people from
>> non-natives as well as from the words "berdache" and "gay."[6]
>>
>> <<<<
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>> --
>> Mark Mandel
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