Saying one thing but meaning the opposite

Baker, John JMB at STRADLEY.COM
Wed Nov 12 18:07:10 UTC 2008


        Not to overlook the obvious, but terms that are both sarcastic
and ironic may also be described as sardonic, a word that is suitable
for a general audience.

        It's my understanding that an antiphrasis is always ironic, but
I don't use the term often enough to have any confidence in this
assertion.


John Baker


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At 11/12/2008 12:25 PM, Benjamin Zimmer wrote (and John Baker seconded):
>On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard
><gcohen at mst.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Btw, what about humorously calling a tall, powerful man "Tiny"?
>
>Ooh! Antiphrasis.
>
>E.g.:
>http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0502A&L=ADS-L&P=R8497

Aha!  There is a Greek word, and it's in the OED.  So I could call my
case "ironic (or sarcastic) antiphrasis".  But I don't think I dare use
"antiphrasis" in what I am writing for what I hope will be a large,
general audience.

Now the only Greek word I am (still) looking for (or looking to coin) is
one meaning "a lover of, or collector of, books about religion".  I am
presently going with "threskobibliophile", but I've been told that may
be somewhat off the mark.

Joel

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