SOTA watch: "ancestors" for "descendants" again?

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 2 21:24:46 UTC 2008

My bad.  It's successors not ancestors.  The rest of the quote is correct.  It was early morning.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:29:11 -0400
> From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
> Subject: SOTA watch: "ancestors" for "descendants" again?
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> Poster: Laurence Horn
> Subject: SOTA watch: "ancestors" for "descendants" again?
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> At 7:16 AM +0000 10/2/08, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>To be fair the Webster's Student Dictionary by Barnes and Noble (an
>>American Co.) though printed in USA does not say it's an American
>>dictionary (but it does say "American edition copyright 1992,1999")
>>. Copyright shifted from Harrap Publishing (a UK Co.) in 1992.
>>It's phonetic notation looks like SAMPA. Every ending "r" is
>>written with an upside-down "e", because "-r is never pronounced at
>>the end of words" it says. Also "farm" is fa:m. I suppose the
>>"Webster" part is that US spelling is given first then British. But
>>it's clearly UK pronunciation written in European SAMPA.
>>I bought an older "Webster's Dictionary" (copyrights 1939 first to
>>1975 last) by Modern Promotions, NY. It says "This dictionary is
>>not published by the original publishers of Webster's Dictionary,
>>nor by their ancestors."
> Does it actually say "ancestors"? Stunning.
> LH
>>So what makes it Websters? I suppose the spelling. The
>>pronunciation guide is different than above, with a long line macron
>>over the long vowels and the short vowels having no diacritics.
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