"loblolly pine"

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Thu Sep 4 00:10:42 UTC 2008


Wilson, just think of it as the haute cuisine
loblolly sense 1.a.  (But I am disappointed that
you didn't connect loblolly pine to Southern mud-holes.)

Joel

At 9/3/2008 05:37 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>The "loblolly" that I know is closest to 1: a kind of food for keeping
>children out from underfoot made by breaking up several rounds of a
>kind of cookie-like bread called "teacakes" into a mixture of cream,
>beaten egg, vanilla flavoring, and sugar and steerying it up (as we
>say down home) into a kind of hog slop called a "loblolly" and feeding
>it to said children/chiddrin/chilrun/chirrun/chirrin, etc. I loved
>this when I was a kiddie down in Texas. Now, it sounds somewhat gross.
>
>-Wilson
>
>On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > At 9/2/2008 11:32 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> >>I know a word, "loblolly," but I can't see how it could connect to
> >>"loblolly pine.' What does your word, "loblolly," mean?
> >
> > Several things:
> > 1. a. Thick gruel or spoon-meat, freq. referred
> > to as a rustic or nautical dish or simple
> > medicinal remedy; burgoo. {dag}Hence, a
> ship-doctor's medicines.  [from 1597]
> > b. U.S. colloq. A mud-hole.  [from 1865]
> > 2. A bumpkin, rustic, boor.  [from 1604]
> > 3. = loblolly pine.  [from 1819]
> > 4. attrib. and Comb., as ... loblolly pine, the
> > tree Pinus T├Žda, growing in swamps in the southern United States; [1760]
> >
> > Joel
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> >>-Wilson
> >>
> >>On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> >> > How did "loblolly pine" arise fom "loblolly"?
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> >> > Joel
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