glottal "y"

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 17 22:53:15 UTC 2008

"Uh oh" and "ut oh" do work like there is a glottal stops between the words.  Certainly "ut oh" is more pronounced.

For "uh oh" there is vowel following a vowel, which begs a bit of a glottal stop.  Of interest are words were vowel follows vowel within the word.  Like "chaos" "idea" "create".   They often are spoken with y-glides.  ~kaeyaas (where ~ae is long a and ~aa is "ah").  In truespel I use an apostrophe between two vowels and glottal stops.  So "chao" could be spoken ~kae'aas or ~kaeyaas and "idea" as ~ieddeeyu or ~ieddeeyu (where ~ie is long i and ~u is short u).

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> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:18:12 -0400
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> Subject: glottal "y"
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> The English word "oh" normally begins with a glottal stop. Indeed, this is a=
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> redundant feature for words beginning with vowels in English. We just don't=20
> hear it (as we don't hear the aspiration after initial voiceless stops) beca=
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> it is totally redundant.=20
> So it would be difficult to say "uh oh" WITHOUT an intervening glottal stop.=
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> If a word ends in an offglide, that offglide can replace the glottal stop,=20
> as in "beyond" [biyand]. Or the /y/ may be lost and the glottal stop remains=
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> as in [bi?and]. The variant with the [?] is very common. But "uh" does not e=
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> in an offglide.=20
> There are different strategies for different dialects of English when two=20
> vowels come together. "Law and order" can be /la?Inordr/, /lawInordr/, or=20
> /larInordr/. Using an /h/ as a linking feature does not work for Americans (=
> not that=20
> there is one in "uh" anyway).
> In a message dated 9/12/08 11:29:10 PM, ymeroz at EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>> The y is not just elided, but replaced with a glottal stop, as in "uh-oh".
>> On 9/12/08 8:04 PM, "Tom Zurinskas"  wrote:
>>> I've never noticed anyone saying a glottal "y" such that "beyond" is=20
>> "be'ond".
>>> Perhaps a dropped ( elided) "y".=A0 Would you say an elided "y" is the s=
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>> as a
>>> glottal "y"?
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