help with counting phonemes

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Apr 7 16:37:42 UTC 2009


Christopher Hunter asks:

"[C]an two distinct phonemic transcriptions be put in the same
phonetic vowel set?"


This doesn't quite make sense. Does he mean, "Can two distinct
phonetic transcriptions be assigned to the same phoneme?" or some
such?

-Wilson
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On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Lois Nathan <lbnath88545112 at aol.com> wrote:
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> Dear all,
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> I'm writing to ask for help for a student who is doing his Master thesis on=20=
> the phonemic behavior of different groups of speakers of English in Scotland=
> . =C2=A0He has questions about counting the phonemes. This is not my special=
> ty (he's not doing the paper with me), but I thought maybe someone on the li=
> st might know this. =C2=A0Below is the content of his request. =C2=A0Thank y=
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> Lois Nathan
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> hello,=20
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> this is the mail we talked about, a bit of help for the counting process for=
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> Q1 : is
> there any quick way of counting the occurences of a phoneme in specific
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> Q2 :
> will the vowel sets as described by Wells work? and can two distinct phonemi=
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> transcriptions be put in the same phonetic vowel set?=C2=A0 for example, the
> informants will use different phonemic utterances for the same word in the s=
> ame
> environment (they will use a [a] and then for the same word and in the same=20=
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> in the sentence they will use an upside down [a] (near-open central vowel)
> (sorry don't have the font of the computer).
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> there a model which will allow me to see phonetic pattern of=C2=A0a
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> Q4=C2=A0:
> same question for several informants? (upto 30)
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> christopher
> hunter
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