r-less in Gaza

David A. Daniel dad at POKERWIZ.COM
Sat Aug 1 01:38:24 UTC 2009

How bizarre. This thread has nothing to do with urban legends or snopes or
anything of the sort. It is about an article in the San Francisco Chronicle.
The Chron article cites some incidents in which US citizens have been
treated like non-citizens/illegal immigrants by ICE. As with many or most
online articles these days, readers are invited to post comments on the
article. One such posted comment was just two words, "bogus stories", and my
question was: did the poster not believe the stories or did he think the
content of the stories was unfortunate. In other words, my question was
about the use of the word bogus. The veracity of the stories is not in

We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there
-----Original Message-----
From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
Mark Mandel
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: r-less in Gaza

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, David A. Daniel <dad at pokerwiz.com> wrote:
> What is it that Snopes does not have?

I was unable to find any mention on Snopes of the story quoted in the post
that started this thread (
Specifically, the anecdote quoted in that post (and pasted below), out of
three in the article (

Which doesn't prove anything; but if this were an urban legend that had been
knocking around for a while, I'd expect to find it on Snopes. I think we're
in agreement that these stories are not bogus 'phony'.

> Houston chef Leonard Robert Parrish, 52, wasn't locked up by ICE or
> deported, but he did run afoul of a law intended for illegal immigrants.
> The Brooklyn-born Parrish went down to the Harris County sheriff's
> office in September to clear up a problem over a couple of bounced
> checks. He wound up in jail on immigration charges. He was strip-
> searched and spent 12 hours in custody.
> "The deputy told me I had a foreign accent," Parrish recalled. "I told
> him I had an East Coast accent. He said, 'It sounds like a foreign
> accent to me.' "
> A 2008 Texas law required a person's citizenship status be linked to
> his driver's license. A sheriff's deputy told Parrish he was detained
> because when they ran his driver's license information through their
> computer, it said that his citizenship status was "unknown."
> "I served on a murder jury in Texas and they can't find out I'm a
> citizen?" asked Parrish. "I'm still fighting. ... Nobody wants to take
> responsibility for locking me up for no reason."

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