"for" = of

Charles Doyle cdoyle at UGA.EDU
Thu Dec 10 17:13:13 UTC 2009


"As is true for many a fanciful story" sounds fine to me (unlike "the voice for the president"). Doesn't "(be) true for" have its own idiomatic standing?

--Charlie


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>Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:12:38 -0500
>From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> (on behalf of Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>)
>Subject: Re: "for" = of
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>2005 James R. Hansen _First Man: The Life of Neil Armstrong_ (N.Y.: Simon & Schuster) 428: As is true for many a fanciful story, the stories about Apollo 11's UFO "sightings" have a kernel of truth.
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>JL
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>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> http://www.badassoftheweek.com/mccool.html: Full texts for the Fenian
>> Cycle.
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>> JL
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>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>> > At 11/3/2009 08:31 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>> > >CNN was discussing White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs this a.m.
>>  As
>> > >the anchor described Gibbs (idiomatically) as "the voice of the
>> > President,"
>> > >a panel appeared at the bottom of the screen reading, "Voice For the
>> > >President."
>> > >
>> > >The panel remained while Gibbs was being interviewed.
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>> > Well, he wouldn't be the Voice Against the President, would he?  :-)
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