last laugh on awe-dropping

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Sun Feb 8 18:07:12 UTC 2009


As I hear spoken in m-w.com  ~Lu Gwaardeeyu~  where ~u = "uh", ~aar = "are"

Again I here a y glide.  I think m-w.com initially had y glides in the phonetic spelling but took them out.

Schwa is a vague phoneme, often spoken with a short i or short oo.  In truespel there are no schwas because all are spelled out as heard on talking dictionaries.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:48:46 -0500
> From: RonButters at AOL.COM
> Subject: last laugh on awe-dropping
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> In most (all?) varieties of American English, [a] reduces to schwa when=20
> unstressed. The pronunciation of "LaGuardia" with two schwas is totally norm=
> al in=20
> ordinary speech cadence. It is totally unremarkable.
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> In a message dated 2/8/09 9:25:30 AM, Berson at ATT.NET writes:
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>> At 2/8/2009 10:04 AM, James A. Landau wrote:
>>>I checked the written transcript of Flight 1549 talking with New
>>>York TRACON (Terminal Radar Approach Control).=A0 There were only a
>>>few words with "awe".=A0 One, repeated several times, was "LaGuardia",
>>>which is most often pronounced /l@ 'gwawr dee @/.=A0 This is odd,
>>>since it is an Italian name which Fiorella pronounced I don't know
>>>how but his ancestors pronounced /lah gwahr dee ah/.
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>> l@ by analogy with "the"?
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>> BTW, it's "Fiorello", not "la".=A0 And while I listened to his reading
>> of the comics, I can't attest to his pronunciation, only mine --
>> which is /lah gwahr dee ah/.=A0 Are recordings of his readings
>> extant?=A0 Possibly he introducing himself.
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>> Also BTW, checking on the year of his readings, I notice that the
>> Wikipedia article separates La Guardia.
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