All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn" > "worn")

Gordon, Matthew J. GordonMJ at MISSOURI.EDU
Sun Feb 15 04:33:31 UTC 2009


You mean like the message of yours that was quoted by Ron and by me, the one in which you said:

> In a message dated 2/13/09 2:51:03 PM, truespel at HOTMAIL.COM writes:
>>> The front or velar n and back or alveolar n are just allophones of one  another.


-----Original Message-----
From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Tom Zurinskas
Sent: Sat 2/14/2009 9:46 PM
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Re: All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn" > "worn")
 
Your error Gordon.  I've said velar is back and alveolar is front.  Also if you're addressing an email, retain the email referred to in your post so folks can see what you're talking about.  Not doing that is an abject discourtesy in case you didn't know.


Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
see truespel.com




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> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:33:55 -0600
> From: GordonMJ at MISSOURI.EDU
> Subject: Re: All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn")
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> Poster: "Gordon, Matthew J."
> Subject: Re: All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn">
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> There's also the fact that velar is back and alveolar is front. I'd like =
> to think that that was just an inadvertent error, but given some of =
> Tom's other comments on phonetics, who knows?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Dialect Society on behalf of RonButters at AOL.COM
> Sent: Sat 2/14/2009 6:08 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: =A0 =A0 =A0 Re: [ADS-L] All 40 USA English phonemes =
> (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn")
> =20
> Nonsense. Elementary contrary evidence is found in scores of minimal =
> pairs,=20
> e.g., "thin" and "thing."
> Allophones by definition do not contrast in minimal pairs.
>
> In a message dated 2/13/09 2:51:03 PM, truespel at HOTMAIL.COM writes:
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>> The front or velar n and back or alveolar n are just allophones of one =
>
>> another.=A0
>>=20
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