Dyslexia and English Orthography was "surprise"

Bill Palmer w_a_palmer at BELLSOUTH.NET
Sat Feb 21 00:52:03 UTC 2009


Well, I appreciate that explanation.

So let me move on to a question that I think this list is supposed to
address.  If not, then just slam-dunk me.

In North Carolina, where I live, and particularly in the eastern part, there
is a tendency to use "won't" to mean "was not" or "were not".
Ex:  Q: "Who ate that last piece of pie?"
       A: "It won't me".

Does this practice exist anywhere else?  I have lived in and travelled thru
much of the South, and don't recall hearing it anywhere else.

Bill Palmer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scot LaFaive" <slafaive at GMAIL.COM>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Dyslexia and English Orthography was "surprise"


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> I will readily admit that Ron does speak openly, almost painfully so,
> about
> what displeases him, but any anger directed toward Tom isn't because he
> dare
> violate some traditionalist doctrine. It's because he continually says the
> same thing without regard for what people more knowledgeable in the field
> than him are saying. It's like if I went on a biology forum with the
> little
> I know of the science and proclaimed various ideas that experts in the
> field
> knew to be false, but I didn't listen anyway and just kept on trucking.
> It's
> rather offensive after awhile.
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> On 2/20/09, Bill Palmer <w_a_palmer at bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> I'm new to this list, but a veteran of many others.  I expected more
>> elevated discourse from the professorate, from which I'm guessing most of
>> these posts originate.
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>> Of what value is the nastiness found so regularly in this forum, except
>> to
>> distract from whatever topic is under discussion?
>>
>> Obviously TZ dares to violate borders that are jealously guarded by the
>> traditionalists.
>>
>> Bill Palmer
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>> > The point of "how like him" is that TZ rarely answers posts that
>> > directly
>> > co=
>> > ntradict his positions--he simply ignores them. There is no rational
>> > discour=
>> > se with him, only his continued insistence that his opinions are facts,
>> > even=
>> > when they are contradicted by basic findings of linguistic science.
>> >
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>> > Not that your opinion of what is or is not "insulting" is relevant. If
>> you
>> > t=
>> > hink that I or anyone else is being unnecessarily abusive, report the
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>> > nt to the list owner. Your lectures on bad manners are in themselves,
>> > arroga=
>> > nt, insulting, and irrelevant.=C2=A0
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Randy Alexander <strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM>
>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 6:52 pm
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>> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:39 AM, <ronbutters at aol.com> wrote:
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>> >> But how like him to ignore the evidence and cling tenaciously to an
>> >> irreleva=3D
>> >> nt statistic in support of an impossible course of action.
>> >
>> >
>> > Insulting wording.  How about:
>> > But he is ignoring the evidence and clinging tenaciously to an
>> > irrelevant
>> > statistic in support of an impossible course of action.
>> >
>> > --
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