Fw: [ADS-L] "slurring"?

[Bill Palmer]

I hasten to classify myself as an "amateur", but one with a better than
average knowledge of language.

In my foreign language studies some (many) years ago, I recall phonetic
realizations varying according to speed and carefulness of articulation...a
phrase pronounced one way under conditions of careful speech, and maybe
another way with careless and/or rapid speech.

I will concede that this may be no longer precise or scientific enough.

However, I believe you understand the concept of what we are saying here, so
can you provide a more current or linguistically acceptable term?

Bill Palmer


----- Original Message -----
From: <ronbutters at AOL.COM>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:11 AM
Subject: Fw: [ADS-L] "slurring"?


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> But "careless speech" is not a term that has any scientific basis or use.
> It explains nothing whatever.
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> Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:44:25
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> Altho I wasn't the first to use the term in this particular thread, let me
> substitute "careless speech"
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> Bill Palmer
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>> What do y'all mean by "slurring"? It refers informally to the speech of
>> the brain-damaged and drunks -- which is not a significant cause of
>> linguistic change.
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>> From: Bill Palmer
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>> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] ADS-L Digest - 20 Feb 2009 to 21 Feb 2009 (#2009-53)
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>> I do not doubt that it could have originated as a non-rhotic form of
>> "weren't", but it is now too widespread to be simply a result of
>> slurring,
>> IMHO.
>>
>> Bill P
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>> From: "Your Name" <ROSESKES at AOL.COM>
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>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: ADS-L Digest - 20 Feb 2009 to 21 Feb 2009 (#2009-53)
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>>> In a message dated 2/22/2009 12:00:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> LISTSERV at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU writes:
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>>>
>>>>In North Carolina, where I live, and particularly in the eastern  part,
>>>>there
>>>>is a tendency to use "won't" to mean "was not" or "were  not".
>>>>Ex: Q: "Who ate that last piece of pie?"
>>>>     A: "It won't me".
>>>>
>>>>Does this practice exist  anywhere else? I have lived in and travelled
>>>>thru
>>>>much of the South,  and don't recall hearing it anywhere else.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a slurring between "it wasn't me" and "it weren't me," both
>>> of
>>> which I've heard.  Possible?
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
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