Antedating "and them"

[Herb Stahlke]

So is "close line" eye dialect or an eggcorn?

Herb

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Though widely familiar to others here, it still sounds weird to me. I never
> heard it in NYC.
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> 1918 Ring Lardner _Treat 'Em Rough_ (Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill) 13: I
> guess if Van Hindburg and them could of seen us you wouldn't of needed a
> close line no more to take their chest measure.
>
> The "writer" is a baseball pitcher from the rural Midwest.
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> JL
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