'Jazz" discussed in baseball research group -- supposed musical antedatings in Newspaper Archives

Sam Clements SClements at NEO.RR.COM
Sun Jul 12 21:15:05 UTC 2009


Jerry,

Unless I've misread your post, the person who originally sent these cites
obviously had no "real" access to Newspaper Archive.  Note the garbled
spelling in the texts.

If they had such, they could have checked to see if the dates on the
mastheads matched the supposed cite dates.

Sam Clements
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas G. Wilson" <douglas at NB.NET>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 17:04
Subject: Re: 'Jazz" discussed in baseball research group -- supposed musical
antedatings in Newspaper Archives


> Gerald Cohen wrote:
>> ....
>>>> found various prior mentions of the term jazz  in reference to music.
>>>> But are these references reliable?
> No. They are generally (I think all) bogus.
>
> I have done the same search myself, as have others (I suppose many
> others); maybe we've missed something, but it is obviously unbelievable
> that ALL of us simply overlooked ALL of these readily available "early
> citations"!
>
> Of course N'archive is no more reliable than other digitized stuff, and
> many of the papers are wrongly dated. One must always seek internal
> evidence of the date if it's important. One must also examine the actual
> image to be sure that there is not an OCR error (these are very frequent).
>
> Note too that one must be able to date the relevant page imaged (not
> just the issue) since sometimes pages are mixed.
>
> -- Doug Wilson
>
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