"in phonetics" - golf/gulf

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Jul 13 21:50:11 UTC 2009


I pronounce "golf" as ~gaalf (~aa as in "Saab") and "gulf" as in ~gulf (~u as in "up").
My cousin says "golf" as in ~goulf (~ou as in "out").  We discussed this awhile back.

thefreedictionary.com speaker says for

"golf" USA = ~gulf
"golf" UK = ~gulf

"gulf" USA = ~gulf
"gulf" UK = ~gaalf

So UK says it opposite of what I say for "gulf" and "golf".

However, m-w.com does speak them as I say them.


Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:43:51 -0400
> From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
> Subject: Re: "in phonetics"
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> Poster: Laurence Horn
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> At 4:01 PM -0400 7/13/09, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>>Then why don't the brilliant NATO planners USE "Gulf" *instead* of "Golf"?
>>
>>These guys stand between us and nuclear destruction, for God's sake!
>>
>>JL
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> They have to maintain the distinction at least orthographically lest
> future generations wonder why we fought Saddam in the Golf War(s).
>
> LH
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>>
>>On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Scot LaFaive wrote:
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>>>> "Golf," e.g. is theoretically supposed to be pronounced like "gulf."
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>>> I believe that's the way it is for me.
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>>> Scot
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>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jonathan Lighter>>>>wrote:
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>>>> Wackipedia has a fascinating discussion at
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet#Pronunciation
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>>>> Scroll down esp. to "Pronunciation." "Golf," e.g. is theoretically
>>>> suppose=
>>>> d
>>>> to be pronounced like "gulf."
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