the pronunciation of "patio"

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Jul 21 16:12:24 UTC 2009

from for "patio" I hear

USA = ~padee'oe  (~a as in "hat", ~ee as in "tree", ~oe as in "toe"
UK = ~patee'ue   (~ue as in "true")

USA says ~d for "t"
For both, stress is on first syllable.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+

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> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: Arnold Zwicky
> Subject: Re: the pronunciation of "patio"
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> On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Doug G. Wilson wrote:
>> I don't see a pronunciation of "patio" with /S/ or /s/ in English
>> dictionaries at a glance.
>> However, handy on-line French dictionaries (ATILF, Acad. Fran.) show
>> "patio" pronounced both /patjo/ and /pasjo/, the latter close enough
>> to
>> Baum's presumed /paSiow/ I think.
>> So maybe this is a Frenchified pronunciation.
> this is an excellent idea -- and it wouldn't depend on the
> pronunciation being based on an actual French pronunciation, since
> English adopts many words from Spanish with "frenchified"
> pronunciations based on spelling, rather than directly on French
> pronunciations.
> arnold
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