velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Sat Mar 7 19:16:20 UTC 2009


Following Tom's convention for marking a stressed syllable, I count
five syllables marked for stress in the entire truespel text below.
That's out of about 35 syllables that could reasonably be stressed,
many of which would be stressed in anyone's pronunciation.  Why such
limited marking of stress?

Herb

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Alison Murie <sagehen7470 at att.net> wrote:
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> I must assume that you preface each sentence with the ordinary English
> spelling because you know that most people won't be able to read the
> rather odd language that truespel apparently represents. That rather
> suggests that its vaunted transparency has been overstated.
> AM
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> On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>> ~! indicates my accent (at start and finish)
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>> Tom, why don't you post using truespel
>> ~!Taam, Wie doent yue poest yuezeeng truespel~!
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>> Sure thing.  I also would like to find a phonetic converter for IPA
>> to show a comparison.  Note that all accents vary.
>>
>> ~!Sher thheeng.  Ie aulsoe wood liek tue fiend u funnedik kunvverter
>> for IPA tue shoe u kumppairisin.  Noet that aul aksents vairee.~!
>>
>> Basically if  you run your finger along the phonemes and speak them,
>> you are speaking as I speak.
>> ~!Basiklee if yue run yer feenger ullaung thu foeneemz and speek
>> them, yue aar speekeeng az Ie speek.~!
>>
>> Note that stress is on the first syllable or after a double consonant.
>> ~!Noet that stres iz aan thu ferst silubool or after u dubool
>> kaansunint.~!
>>
>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>> see truespel.com
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>>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:45:48 -0500
>>> From: sagehen7470 at ATT.NET
>>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>> Poster: Alison Murie
>>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
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>>> Tom, why don't you post using truespel?
>>> AM
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>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>>>> I forgot Herb. Books are right and people are wrong. Thanks for
>>>> the insight.
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