Uvular /l/ (Was: velarized /l/ again)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Wed Mar 11 06:16:49 UTC 2009


Unfortunately, there are exceptions everywhere. The late bluesman,
Floyd Dixon, like me, a native of Marshall, Texas, sings:

I've been to Dallas [d&l at s] ...

when everybody knows that, in Marshall, everybody says [d&LIs].

-Wilson
–––
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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-Mark Twain



On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:
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> Some people use a different gesture involving the back of their tongue to
> make an /l/: a uvular nasal consonant. (It's represented as [N] in IPA,
> which unfortunately is ambiguous here, since [N] is also SAMPA for the velar
> nasal.) I wrote about in a couple of short posts:
> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/totally-uvular/
> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2007/01/10/lsa-2007-l-and-s-at-the/
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> Neal Whitman
> Email: nwhitman at ameritech.net
> Blog: http://literalminded.wordpress.com
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>> Wilson mentioned in the previous thread that /l/ tends not to be
>> velarized in AAE, at least certainly not as much in other AmE
>> varieties. Â I've noticed this week the word "colleague" pronounced on
>> TV by two African Americans, one I think an Olympic track athlete in a
>> cell phone ad and the other Ice T on Law and Order SVU. Â Both
>> pronounced the /l/ without velarization and clearly the onset of the
>> second syllable. Â In my speech the /l/ is ambisyllabic, begins
>> velarized and ends unvelarized.
>>
>> Herb
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