Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sun Mar 15 22:57:00 UTC 2009

That should be "always in ref. to women with ample arses and always in
favorable contexts." The woman herself doesn't have to be "thick,"
since the so-called "bubble-butt" is also considered to be quite
attractive. A girl that I knew in 1954 who was given the nickname,
"'Hind," because of the size of her arse, was otherwise slender. By
black standards, anyway. Even if someone had "dis-assed her"
(punchline of an old joke, punning on "disaster"), she still wouldn't
have been as "poor" as the average fashion model.

"Junk in the trunk" has a literal derivation, from the usual presence
of literal junk in the trunk of a car. As a consequence, "badunkadunk"
is likewise a synonym for "arse of remarkably-attractive dimensions,"
being  punning onomatopoeia for the noise made by junk in the trunk,
when a car crosses railroad tracks, hits a pothole, or such like.

Remember the '70's SNL sketch in which the guys are sitting around
shooting the shit about women. They're all talking, except for Garrett
Morris. They're all going on and on about breasts, bosoms, bazooms,
boobs, racks, etc. Finally, they notice that Garrett hasn't said
anything. So, one asks, "Garrett, what do *you* like about a woman?"
Garrett replies, in his N'Awlins accent, "Ah lack a gal wiff a big

In Dave Chappelle's quiz-show sketch, "I Know Black People," one of
the questions was, "What does 'badunkadunk' mean?" Acceptable answers
were "junk in the trunk" or "a big ass / boody."

AFAIK, "junk" is also used in black slang for the male genitalia.
"(That good) stuff" has been used for the female genitalia and woman
as sex object since God knows when. My mother, now 97, uses it.
Without the least understanding of the subtext, of course.

According to Seinfeld's buddy, Kramer, the "boys" refers only to the
testes, with no reference to the penis.

All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at> wrote:
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> FWIW, in the "male prostitution episode" of HBO's _Flight of the Conchords_,
> "junk" (buttocks) was explicitly contrasted with "sugar lumps."
> "Junk in the trunk" was popularized in the mid '90s, usu. in ref. to large
> women, and usu. in favorable contexts.
> JL
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at> wrote:
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>> Subject: Â  Â  Â Re: CANDY and JUNK
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>> On Mar 15, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Ron Butters wrote:
>> >
>> > I THOUGHT I'd mentioned this a number of years ago, but a check of the
>> > archives tells me otherwise.
>> i don't know why the search didn't work. Â i find exchanges in May 2006
>> under the heading: OutIL More on JUNK 'private parts'. Â the topic
>> started on the OutIL mailing list.
>> Grant Barrett reported that there was [still is] an entry on this use
>> of JUNK, here:
>> Â
>> Grant has Mordden quotes from 1986 and 1988, non-Mordden quotes from
>> 1996 on.
>> > ... I had never heard these usages, so I wrote to Mordden and asked
>> > him about
>> > them. He said he had just "made them up."
>> >
>> > It seems to me that it is unlikely that this rather obscure short
>> > story
>> > should have had such an impact on adolescent American culture. Maybe
>> > the terms just
>> > percolated in gay culture for years--inspired by Mordden, who has
>> > been pretty
>> > popular in gay culture--and then made the crossover? Maybe Mordden was
>> > particularly clever in choosing terms that had not actually come
>> > into use but were
>> > so "right" that eventually folks invented them independently?
>> independent invention seems entirely possible. Â compare similar uses
>> of "stuff".
>> arnold
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