Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon May 11 14:30:43 UTC 2009

At 1:47 AM -0700 5/11/09, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
>>>At 12:17 PM -0400 5/10/09, Mark Mandel wrote:
>>>>No tones? I see a caron over the "e".
>>>Yes, I noticed that diacritic, but wasn't sure it was a tone,
>>>especially since there was nothing tone-like on the first syllable,
>>>but I confess I know about as much about Vietnamese orthography as I
>>>do about playing linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys.
>>What first syllable? I'm referring to the only IPA the article gives
>>for the name, at least up at the top:
>i wasn't familiar with the term "caron".  not in OED, NOAD2, or AHD4.
>but there's a wikipedia page that says that it's a synonym of
>"hacek" (imagine a hacek on the C and an acute accent on the A).
I actually thought it was a breve when I first 
looked at the Dat Nguyen entry, and thus didn't 
process it as a tone indicator.  But a caron it 
is, a term with which I had also been entirely 

This "caron" has penult stress I assume, as 
opposed to actress Leslie or b-baller Butler, 
both of whom stress their final (albeit quite 
different) syllables.  Wonder if Leslie Caron 
ever played a hat-check girl.


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