caron (and stresica -- aceents omitted)

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Mon May 11 15:31:13 UTC 2009


"Caron" is the term used by the ISO IT encoded character code set
specifiers.  On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:11:14 -0500 Jesse responded to my
query about "caron":
>On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 11:05:46AM -0500, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> > "caron" (aka "hacek"?) is not in the OED?  (It's what the ISO code set
> > standards, e.g. 8859.2, called it.)
>
>Doesn't seem to be. I've never heard anything other than "hacek"
>myself.
>
>Best,
>
>Jesse

And so I submitted a quotation (separately) and replied to Jesse:
>OK, I've submitted caron from 1985, in File Sent:
>1076000504.sgml.  AKA hacek and stresica [omitting the accents], and
>apparently still used today in the ISO code set standards and in
>typography (Google browse).
>Joel

Joel

At 5/11/2009 10:30 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>At 1:47 AM -0700 5/11/09, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
>>>>...
>>>>At 12:17 PM -0400 5/10/09, Mark Mandel wrote:
>>>>>No tones? I see a caron over the "e".
>>>...
>>
>>i wasn't familiar with the term "caron".  not in OED, NOAD2, or AHD4.
>>but there's a wikipedia page that says that it's a synonym of
>>"hacek" (imagine a hacek on the C and an acute accent on the A).
>>
>>arnold
>I actually thought it was a breve when I first looked at the Dat
>Nguyen entry, and thus didn't process it as a tone indicator.  But a
>caron it is, a term with which I had also been entirely unfamiliar.
>
>This "caron" has penult stress I assume, as opposed to actress
>Leslie or b-baller Butler, both of whom stress their final (albeit
>quite different) syllables.  Wonder if Leslie Caron ever played a
>hat-check girl.
>
>LH

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