Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue May 19 16:14:12 UTC 2009

In USA, the "t" ~t tends to be spoken as a "d" ~d in most of those cases, except 20, which drops the consonant altogether, ~twunee (TWUH-nee).  Soe it's ~~thherdee, fordee, fifdee, siksdee, sevindee, aedee, niendee~~ at least as an alternate pronunciation (but is probably more common than the formal pronunciation which would have a ~t).  (Note the UK is much better in pronouncing their "t"s.)

There is one dictionary I know of that represents the ~d for ~t swap as an alternative pronunciaton, and that is mine, truespel book 3, which adds a pronunciation guide to the VOA Beginner's dictionary where one is missing in the official version.

Also in book 3 the glottalized "t" is represented as a frequent alternative form in English. For example "bottle" ~baa'ool, "want" ~waan'.  Ending "t" is probably more often glottalized than not.

I spoke to a linguist involved in a project re-analyzing English as actually spoken.  I told him he should recognize these "t" features at least as an alternative spelling.  He said (to paraphrase) "the public wouldn't like that."

Unrealized reality.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
see truespel.com

> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:28:13 +0800
> From: strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: 90
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> Poster: Randy Alexander
> Subject: 90
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> Does anyone normally pronounce the /t/ in "ninety" as a voiceless
> (aspirated) plosive?
> I guess that applies to 80, 70, 60, 50, 40, 30, and 20, but it seems
> to me that 90 most normally gets voiced.
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