David Bergdahl dlbrgdhl at GMAIL.COM
Wed Nov 18 21:48:04 UTC 2009

We're not the only ones to discuss it, see Yahoo Answers at

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> Subject:      Re: facacta
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> At 3:48 PM -0500 11/18/09, Mark Mandel wrote:
>>from Rolling Stone, Nov. 26, 2009, p. 49:
>>Springsteen insisted that he and Billy Joel sing "New York State of Mind."
>>"He loves singing that song," says Joel. "He always fucks up the phrasing,
>>but it's Bruce's way of doing it, and in some _facacta_ [italicized] way, it
>>actually works."
>>Yitalian. Who knew?
> Mebbe a loanword from Ladino = 'overdone, overcooked' < _fare_ + _cocta_
> Reminds me of a suggestion in a linguistics paper awhile back that in
> interpreting multiple negation, we need to admit alongside "Duplex
> negatio affirmat" the supplementary principles "Triplex negatio
> confundit" and "Quadruplex negatio fer'blondiat", as illustrated by
> e.g.
> "No one denies that a baby with a neural tube defect isn't a
> catastrophe, but..."
> "Bernie produced what Bernie is supposed to produce, but I don't
> think, either, that you can single out Bernie as not a guy who is not
> part of the disappointment."
> --where "fer'blondiat" is identified as a somewhat obscure verb
> borrowed into late Latin standardly pronounced "farblondzhet".   (CLS
> 27, 1991, p. 104)
> But "facacta" is more likely to have been seriously intended...
> LH
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