"zilch" antedating (1956)

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 15 17:31:43 UTC 2009


Undoubtedly true.

[1935 _Esquire's Bedroom Companion_  (N.Y.: Sterling) 79: There was a young
lady named Syney, Nancy, Gretil, Billy, Toots, Frances, Zilch.]

[1938 Lewis Lawes _Invisible Stripes __ 114 (N.Y.: Farrar & Rinehart): This
an' that happened. Joe said this an' Zilch said that.]

1964, in _Time_ (Jan. 1, 1965) 56: A _zilch_ is a total loss, and so is a
_wimp_..._gink_ [etc.].

JL
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:

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> OED online has 1966
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> July 1956 Popular Mechanics 106.1, "We'll Conquer Antarctica With Wings" by
> Richard F. Dempewolff,  page 74 col. 2
> "What are the chances for rescue?"
> "Zilch!" somebody muttered.
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> (As OED may possibly seem to suggest [with two bracketed quotes], despite
> "origin uncertain," there may have been a development from comic characters
> such as Joe Zilch, a nobody, as it were[n't], a non-entity, to nothing.)
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