"Lord Alfred" or "Alfred, Lord"?

[Jonathan Lighter]

About 5,000 Raw Googlits for "Laurence, Lord Olivier"  - many punctuated
weirdly, like "Laurence (Lord Olivier)," and "Laurence (Lord) Olivier."

311,000 for "Lord Laurence Olivier."

JL

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Well, they've done away with {Forename,] Cardinal [Surname]! What did you
> expect?! Expect "Lord George G. Byron" any day, now.
> -Wilson
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> > Smiling my sardonic "what-did-you-expect?" smile, I used to correct
> > students
> > who infallibly referred to "Lord Alfred Tennyson."
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> > I'd still do it, although these days I can't muster even a sardonic
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> > Google shows that "Alfred, Lord Tennyson,"
> > outnumbers the other chap by nearly ten to one, at least in raw hits.
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> > But "Lord Alfred" is on the rise:
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> > 2009 Samantha Henig "Periscope" in _Newsweek_ (Jan. 12): Lord Alfred
> > Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade."
> > JL
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