"to ring changes", sexual, 1736

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Apr 6 14:09:45 UTC 2010


Before the brawl begins, I should say that "lexicalized" would have been a
better choice of words than the possibly ambiguous "recognized" (i.e.,
established).

JL

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> At 4/5/2010 11:31 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >I mean I haven't encountered it ever except in its S.E. senses. I
> >can imagine it *applied* to sexual activities, but I know I've never seen
> it
> >or heard it used in the kind of absolute, unelaborated construction
> quoted.
> >
> >Whether it was a recognized idiom in a sexual sense is unclear.
>
> Do you-all think it was used in an absolute sexual construction in my
> newspaper item?  Do you-all think it was recognized as such by the
> newspaper's readers?
>
> Joel
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