invading Pearl Harbor

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sat Apr 10 13:20:23 UTC 2010


On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Alison Murie <sagehen7470 at att.net> wrote:

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>  On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > This ex., the first of 37,000 that Google turns up for "invaded Pearl
> > Harbor," suggests that for some people "invade" does include "attack
> > solely
> > by air":
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> > 2004 http://www.snappingturtle.net/jmc/tmblog/archives/003919.html  :
> > The Germans Invaded Pearl Harbor?...
> >
> > Bluto' s inspirational speech [in the film "Animal House"]: "Over?
> > Did you
> > say, 'over?' Nothing is over until WE decide it is! Was [it] over
> > when the
> > Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
> >
> > Note that John Belushi's Bluto doesn't say "invaded": the blogger
> > does.
> >
> > This one is from a social studies review book written by an educator
> > and
> > published by the prestigious Barron's. No child left behind!:
> >
> > 2007 Shannon M. Pugh _Barron's How to Prepare for the TAKS: Texas
> > Assessment
> > of Knowledge and Skills Social Studies Exit Exam_ (Hauppauge, N.Y.:
> > Barron's
> > Educational) 81: On December 7, 1949, the Japanese invaded Pearl
> > Harbor,
> > killing more than 2,400 Americans. President Franklin Roosevelt
> > referred to
> > the invasion as "a day that will live in infamy"....
> >
> > (Bonus blunder:  FDR very clearly said "a date which," not "a day
> > that." But
> > so what, right?)
> >
> > Do such writers/speakers also designate the aerial battle of Britain
> > as an
> > "invasion"?
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Garson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
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> >> Jonathan Lighter wrote
> >>> Back in February I noted the academic who in 2006  mentioned the
> >>> Japanese
> >>> "invasion" of Pearl Harbor (though damned if I can find the
> >>> discussion in
> >>> the Archives).
> >>
> >> Here is a link to your earlier posting in the ADS archive:
> >> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1002A&L=ADS-L&P=R6923
> >>
> >> The following search query finds about 9 relevant hits in the archive
> >> dated 2010 February 5.
> >> Narrow Search: Subject Contains: Pearl Harbor
> >>
> >>
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S2=ADS-L&q=&s=Pearl+Harbor&f=&a=&b=
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> >> Google Books contains a few works that mention the invasion of Pearl
> >> Harbor by Japan. This remarkably evanescent event escaped detection
> >> by
> >> most historians. However, an authoritative reference mentioning this
> >> inexplicably overlooked pivotal occurrence was produced by
> >> Merriam-Webster in 1997.
> >>
> >> Citation: 1997, Merriam-Webster's Geographical Dictionary, Page 1225,
> >> Column 2, Merriam-Webster, Inc. (Google Books limited view)
> >>
> >> Dictionary entry for United States: ... entered WWII after Japanese
> >> invasion of Pearl Harbor Dec. 7, 1941 ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=Co_VIPIJerIC&q=%22invasion+of+Pearl%22#v
> >> =snippet&
> >>
> >> The Japanese did invade the airspace of Pearl Harbor.
> >>
> >> (continuing  Jonathan Lighter's post)
> >>>
> >>> He wasn't alone:
> >>>
> >>> 1996 Clarice Swisher, ed. _Readings on John Steinbeck_ (San Diego:
> >>> Greenhaven Press) 22: He finished the manuscript...just before the
> >> Japanese
> >>> invasion of Pearl Harbor in December 1941.
> >>>
> >>> Ignorance of semantics or of history?  A cynical s.o.b. might
> >>> suggest
> >> that
> >>> these characterizations (and presumably a million others
> >>> unrecorded) of
> >> the
> >>> attack as an "invasion" may mask a genuine ignorance of history.
> >>> If the
> >>> Japanese really "invaded," then the "invasion" was obviously
> >>> repulsed. In
> >>> that case the devastating air attack was secondary to the failed
> >> invasion.
> >>>
> >>> So we won at Pearl Harbor. No biggie.
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>> --
> >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> >> truth."
> >>>
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> Does Barron's also say "1949?" or is that a typo?
> AM
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