Fwd: crow bites

Arnold Zwicky zwicky at STANFORD.EDU
Thu Aug 26 12:28:02 UTC 2010

i bring this query to you, habitues of dialectological circles:

> From: Bill Poser <billposer2 at gmail.com>
> Date: August 25, 2010 9:14:47 PM PDT
> To: zwicky at stanford.edu
> Subject: crow bites
> Arnold,
> Where I would say "I have a stich in my side" to indicate what happens when you run too hard, Carrier has "datsan suzgwut" = "a crow pecked me". I thought that this was a true Carrier idiom, but a Carrier speaker I was talking to today says that he has heard people say "I have crow bites" in English. He thinks that white people say this, which if true would rule out the possibility of this being a calque from Carrier into English. However, I've never heard anyone say this and a quick google search doesn't turn it up. I think that you frequent dialectological circles: do you know where I could check this out? 

not familiar to me, nor in DARE so far as i can see.  anyone have information on the idiom, or relevant (western) Canadian sources that might be expected to have it if anyone does?


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