kettling

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Tue Dec 14 21:36:08 UTC 2010


It might be worth-while to look for "kesseling"
in British, perhaps as a stop-over on the route
from German.  There are a few Google raw hits.

Joel

At 12/14/2010 06:34 AM, Paul Frank wrote:
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>In German, the verb "einkesseln" has been around for quite some time.
>The eight-volume Duden (2nd edition, 1993) defines it as "völlig
>einschliessen" (to surround and enclose completely) and explains that it
>is mainly used in military contexts. The first citation is from 1973.
>But anyone who has read German accounts of the Battle of Stalingrad
>knows that the word was already in use in 1943. Grimm's Deutsches
>Wörterbuch (1838-1961) defines the noun Kessel as "bei jagden der rings
>geschlossene platz, wohin das wild getrieben wird" (roughly: encircled
>place where the wild game is driven during the hunt). My uneducated
>guess is that that is where the military meaning comes from in German.
>
>Lynne, now I'm confused: am I supposed to put my replies above or below
>the post I'm replying to?
>
>Paul
>
>
>On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:10 +0000, "Lynne Murphy"
><m.l.murphy at SUSSEX.AC.UK> wrote:
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> > Have you seen this, on the use of the cognate in German?
> > <http://transblawg.eu/index.php?/archives/3452-kettleeinkesseln.html>
> >
> > Lynne
> >
> > --On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:03 +0000 Michael Quinion
> > <wordseditor at WORLDWIDEWORDS.ORG> wrote:
> >
> > > Paul Frank wrote:
> > >
> > >> The crowd-control tactic of "kettling," which is on the front pages of
> > >> British newspapers this week, is not in the OED. Or at least I don't see
> > >> it there. I first came across this word in 2009, in connection with the
> > >> G20 protests in London.
> > >
> > > I discussed this briefly in the World Wide Wors newsletter at the time of
> > > the G20 protests in London in 2004. Nobody
> then seemed to have a good idea
> > > where the name comes from and, as far as I can discover, still don't. I'd
> > > be delighted to be corrected on this!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Quinion
> > > Editor, World Wide Words
> > > Web: http://www.worldwidewords.org
>
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