Heard on The Judges: _for to_ VP

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jul 7 16:02:21 UTC 2010


Wilson,

Doesn't Judge Mathis often echo the unusual syntax of people in his court?

Herb

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thirty-ish, black female speaker living in Youngstown, OH:
>
> "I ain't riding in no hooptie with no *bungee cord* _for to_ hold up
> the bumper!"
>
> ...
>
> Thirty-ish, black male speaker, likewise living in Y-town:
>
> When I be trying to drive, she be tickling _on_ me, like this." [demonstrating]
>
> Judge Greg Mathis:
>
> "Were you really tickling _on_ him like that?"
>
>
> So, I assume that the judge found nothing strange about this syntactic
> structure.
>
>
> I'm fairly certain that I'd long heard people speak this way, but it
> didn't grab my attention till Buddy Johnson & His Orchestra, With [his
> real-life] Sister Ella On Vocals, released Hittin' _On_ Me in 1953:
>
> I don't want
> No man
> Always
> _Hittin' on_
> Me
>
>
> Probably because "hit on" already had the slang meaning, "approach for
> a sexual or other favor." There was a certain amount of cognitive
> dissonance involved in reconciling the two meanings of "hit on," since
> the song was about a woman who wouldn't take an ass-whipping from a
> man and then not do anything about it.
>
> --Wilson
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