Heard on The Judges: _for to_ VP (UNCLASSIFIED)

Mullins, Bill AMRDEC Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL
Thu Jul 8 14:31:35 UTC 2010


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My grandmother, who was from very rural east TN, would say "for to"
conversationally.

Oh Susannah:

"I'm going to Louisiana,
My true love for to see"



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> I have the impression that "for to" is fairly common in folk poetry, I
> suppose to help maintain the meter.
>
> Can't think of examples, though.
>
> Actually, Jimmie Rogers, Blue Yodel #9 -- the one with Louis Armstrong
> backing him, and "Miss Lil" on piano -- his girl gave him $5 for to
buy
> him some clothes.  (from memory)
>
> GAT
>
> George A. Thompson
> Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
> Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Margaret Lee <mlee303 at YAHOO.COM>
> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010 6:50 am
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> > The words to one of the so-called Negro spirituals, "Swing Low,
Sweet
> > Chariot," are, "Swing low, sweet chariot, coming _for to_ carry me
> home."
> >
> >
> > --Margaret Lee
> >
> >
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> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
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> > > Thirty-ish, black female speaker living in Youngstown, OH:
> > >
> > > "I ain't riding in no hooptie with no *bungee cord* _for to_ hold
> up
> > > the bumper!"
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > --Wilson
> > > ---
> > > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"--a strange
complaint
> > to
> > > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > > -Mark Twain
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