semantic drift: squadron

Bill Palmer w_a_palmer at BELLSOUTH.NET
Thu Jul 22 18:20:40 UTC 2010


Well of course, but, in my experience, the Army at least tends to limit
these terms to combat arms and combat support, such as Signal, Medical, etc.
(as opposed to combat service support). But I'm now too far removed to
comment with any authority.

Bill P
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> The army does it with its units as well. You have medical battalions, etc.
>
> It's not surprising when you consider that these terms have come to mean a
> unit of a certain size, not just one that that is composed of a certain
> type
> of soldier or equipment. In the army, a unit of around 100 soldiers is a
> "company," one of several hundred is a "battalion," one of a few thousand
> is
> a "brigade," etc. My artillery battalion had a "headquarters battery" and
> a
> "service battery," neither of which had any guns bigger than a machine
> gun,
> in addition to the three "firing batteries." The air force does the same
> with its "squadrons" and "wings."
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> A squadron can be composed of aircraft, also.
>
> I was always amazed at how the USAF applies these terms for military units
> to the most unwarlike of functions...e.g. "233rd Finance Squadron" or
> "25th
> Dental Wing", etc..
>
> Or at least they used to.
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> Bill P
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>> Now it can mean  just what "platoon" and "company" can now mean, as I've
>> pointed out previously. I.e., a military unit of just about any size:
>>
>> 2000 http://www.longpauses.com/blog/2000/04/attack-1956.html (Apr. 20):
>> *Paths
>> of Glory* tells of a failed attempt by a French squadron to take an
>> important German position during World War I.
>>
>> Written "for a graduate seminar in Cold War military history." The movie
>> makes it very clear that the right word is "regiment."  "French troops"
>> or
>> "French infantry" would have been perfectly acceptable and more readily
>> understandable but would lack that faux "precision" needed to make a
>> writer
>> sound extra well informed.
>>
>> A "squadron," moreover, requires horses or ships.  Unless, of course, you
>> don't care.  Should you?
>>
>> Underlying some of these exx. of "drift" is the failure to consult a
>> dictionary. However, one only consults a dictionary when one is unsure...
>>
>> JL
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