Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jun 11 18:58:47 UTC 2010

Sorry. I wasn't questioning anyone ele's analysis. I meant, "Why not?"
in the (once-?)widespread(? I reckon not) sense of, "I agree with you
completely." Probably would have helped, if you had heard it, instead
of merely reading it. Or maybe not.



On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Benjamin Zimmer
<bgzimmer at babel.ling.upenn.edu> wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
>> I would agree with Mark that "man-izer" (which I also have from a New
>> Yorker cartoon over a decade ago, with the same telltale hyphen for
>> self-conscious coinage) is an analogical formation (rather than a
>> clip), as in "misandrist" based on "misogynist".
> The only New Yorker cartoon I can find is this one from 1991, without a hyphen:
> http://www.cartoonbank.com/1991/Shes-a-manizer/invt/110940
> The most recent issue has an unhyphenated example in a movie review by
> Anthony Lane, though with a rather different meaning:
> http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2010/06/07/100607crci_cinema_lane?currentPage=all
> "He and Douglas put their scenes together with no more ado than
> someone making a sandwich, and they leave us with the wry thought that
> the people the womanizer really loves—the ones he can live with, and
> die with—are guys. He’s a manizer, and he never even knew it."
> ...as noted in the comments on Mark Liberman's Language Log post:
> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2367
> Commenters provide other cites back to 1981 (mostly unhyphenated).
> Josh Marshall has linked to the LL post, yet he still seems to think
> of it as "his" neologism:
> http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/06/will_manizer_neologism_catch_on.php
> --Ben Zimmer
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