postvocalic /l/

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Mon Mar 8 18:04:27 UTC 2010


And in the Scots case, it goes back to the 15th century, too.

Paul Johnston  (an "l-dropper", too--it's an [o~U] post vocalically
for me)
On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Robin Hamilton wrote:

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> Subject:      Re: postvocalic /l/
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> Also, may I lodge a mild protest with regard to the barely-concealed
> linguistic chauvanism involved in complaints against the dropping
> of the
> post-vocalic "l", since this has been a standard part of Scottish
> vernacular
> rural speech since at least the eighteenth century, ever since
> Robert Burns
> (of sainted memory) ca'd the yows tae the knowes.
>
>                     Up gainst the wa', jimminy cricket.
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> (We can't even *help saying it -- it was a systemic sound change,
> but.)
>
> The Wee M'Greegor
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> From: "Paul Johnston" <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU>
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> quoting:
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>>> Poster:       Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
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>>> If the fear is irrational, why do we have a clear example that "awe-
>>> dropping" leads to miscommunication?  Apparantly when the "l" was
>>> not heard for the word "brawl" and it was pronounced "braal", it
>>> was taken to be "bra".  So in a workplace where "off" and "on" are
>>> spoken frequently, it should be obvious that there is an increasing
>>> danger of miscommunication if "off" is pronounced with the "ah"
>>> phoneme.
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