low back merger--austentacious

[Herb Stahlke]

No, but in my SE Michigan speech, which is obviously the norm, there's
a difference between the initial vowels of "ostentatious" and
"osteopath."  I didn't worry about whether the poor kid from
California had velar softening or palatalization.

Herb

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Uh, is there some difference in pronunciation between "ostentatious"
> and "austentatious" for some speakers who assume that their manner of
> speech represents the norm?? I did not know that. What is the relevant
> distinction?
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> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Leslie Decker <leslie at familydecker.org> wrote:
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>> I live in Austin, TX, and a normal play on words here is to call
>> something Austintatious. Of course, the local dialect here has the
>> low-back merger.
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>> Leslie Decker
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>> On Friday, March 12, 2010, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>> At 3/12/2010 11:11 AM, Herb Stahlke wrote:
>>>>CNN had a story this morning, which I haven't been able to find on
>>>>their site, on the question of whether spellcheck is making kids into
>>>>worse spellers. Â One of the misspellings they showed was
>>>>"austentatious." Â I was in a noise room when I saw the story, so I
>>>>didn't see the location. Â The teenage boy behind the misspelling at
>>>>least had a perceptual contrast, if not also a productive one.
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>>> Perhaps he's merely into the (long) 18th century -- its email list is
>>> Austentatious.
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>>> Joel
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