Terlet

[Laurence Horn]

At 8:05 PM -0400 3/21/10, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>My grandfather, born in Manhattan in 1884, unaffectedly used all of these
>forms - to the extent that conventional orthography can represent them.  He
>never lived in any other borough.
>
>I believe I mentioned long ago that his pronunciations were remarkably like
>Archie Bunker's. Carrol O'Connor was a great screen exponent of white,
>working-class NYC dialect.
>

Does anyone remember whether Ralph Kramden and/or Ed Norton (a.k.a.
Jackie Gleason and Art Carney respectively) wielded the same
centralized rhotic or non-rhotic nuclei we've been discussing?  It's
been too long since I've seen a Honeymooners episode to remember.

LH

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