No more "Christian name, sir?" in Kent, UK

Robin Hamilton robin.hamilton2 at BTINTERNET.COM
Sat Mar 27 11:17:49 UTC 2010


For once, I'm with the Kent force here (or whoever wrote the guidelines).

A few years ago, I became personally (internally) uncomfortable with the
term "Christian name" -- while I have one, neither of my children do, since
neither were Christianed.  So I guess the term is more offensive to atheists
than to members of other religions.

Actually, "offensive" is probably much too strong -- it's a case for me that
there's just this slight element of discomfort and disturbance.

Simply, I'm more comfortable with the term "given name" -- more accurate (if
one can use the term in a lexical context, and risk the genetic fallacy),
and carries less ideological baggage, therefore a "natural" (?) replacement.

(Apparently, I have just been informed, the official term is "forename".)

Terms which are quasi-endearments or possibly patronising are always tricky
in context, and perhaps the poor bobbies are glad of the guidance.  I wonder
how the East Midlands force deals with the term "me duck", which isn't
gender specific?  It implies a kind of intimacy that an officer might be
reluctant to suggest when feeling someone's collar.

What *really disturbed me was the first time a police officer called me
"Sir" -- sheesh, I thought, I *am old.  That gentleman is young enough to be
my grandson.

Having said all that, I don't particularly mind other people using the term
"Christian name", even though I no longer employ it myself.  I understand
what they intend, and perform an act of internal translation.

Robin

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> *Police officers banned from asking for 'Christian'
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