reach (?)

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Fri Nov 5 17:48:23 UTC 2010


At 11/5/2010 12:58 PM, George Thompson wrote:
>I had considered the possibility that the passage from the Mercury
>was a typo, hence my own typo in the subject header -- I meant to
>have it read "peach (?)".  I hadn't thought of "porch" as the intended form.
>
>That lighthouse group was offering a conjectural emendation, as we
>English majors (some of us) say.  The Mercury's reading is absolutely "peach".

(as are the other two newspapers')

>   But Joel's contribution from OED supports "porch" as the correct reading.

Actually, "porch" was suggested by Garson, my OED quotation might
help.  But I still have hopes for "peak" -- a "peak of the kitchen"
would be higher and associated with a chimney.

Joel

>What does DARE have?  I only own vols. 1 & 2.
>
>GAT
>
>George A. Thompson
>Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre",
>Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
>Date: Friday, November 5, 2010 10:34 am
>Subject: Re: reach (?)
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>
> > Interesting, although as Garson suggests we don't know why
> > lighthousefriends.com made this modification.  "Porch"  at least has
> > the same number of letters.  And under "porch" in the OED I find:
> >
> > 1929 Amer. Speech 5 124 'Piazzer' was the only term applied to a
> > veranda [sc. in the dialect of Maine]. The 'porch' was a sort of
> > extra shed-kitchen used as a laundry.
> >
> > Perhaps someone can tell us from this article when it was that
> > "porch" was used to describe this structure.  However, this seems to
> > equate the "porch" with the "shed-kitchen/laundry".  In George's 1766
> > quotation the "Peach *belong[ed]* to the Kitchen".
> >
> > I don't offhand see any definition under "porch" in the OED that
> > helps understand why one might belong to a kitchen.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > At 11/4/2010 09:53 PM, Garson O'Toole wrote:
> > >In the following version the word is "Porch". I have no idea where
> > >lighthousefriends.com found this text. They may have modified the text
> > >given by George since they say it is from the "New York Mercury":
> > >
> > >The tall lighthouse on the low-lying sandy spit was easily seen by
> > >mariners, but being the only structure of any height for several
> > >miles, it apparently was also susceptible to lightning strikes. In
> > >June of 1766, the New York Mercury reported:
> > >
> > >The 26th Instant, the Lighthouse at Sandy Hook was struck by
> > >Lightning, and twenty panes of the Glass Lanthorn broke to pieces; the
> > >chimney and Porch belonging to the kitchen was broken down, and some
> > >people that were in the House received a little Hurt, but are since
> > >recovered. 'Tis said the Gust was attended with a heavy shower of
> > >Hail.
> > >
> > >http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=378
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
> > > > ---------------------- Information from the mail header
> > > -----------------------
> > > > Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > > > Poster:       "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
> > > > Subject:      Re: reach (?)
> > > >
> > >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > I see that the Newport Mercury of July 7 and the Georgia Gazette of
> > > > Aug. 6 of the same year of 1766 have the same story -- and quite
> > > > clearly reproduce the "peach"!  *They* must have known ... or both
> > > > had particularly robotic typesetters.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps "peak"?  "The kitchen chimneys pass up through the peaks of
> > > > their respective roofs ..."  From The Western literary messsenger
> > > > ..., 1853, vols. 20-21, page 137, in an article titled "Design for
> > a
> > > > Farm House".  [GB, Full view.]  Perhaps the light house had a kitchen
> > > > shed with a peaked roof (and a kitchen would need a chimney), and
> > the
> > > > chimney and kitchen were a high point on the light house, so
> > > > susceptible to a lightning strike?
> > > >
> > > > Joel
> > > >
> > > > At 11/4/2010 05:24 PM, George Thompson wrote:
> > > >>I don't see anything in OED that explains this:
> > > >>
> > > >>         The 26th Instant, the Light House at Sandy-Hook was struck
> > > >> by Lightning, and twenty Panes of the Glass Lanthorn broke to
> > > >> Pieces; the Chimney and Peach [sic] belonging to the Kitchen, was
> > > >> broke down, and some People that were in the House received a
> > > >> little Hurt, but are since recovered.  'Tis said the Gust was
> > > >> attended with a heavy Shower of Hail.
> > > >>         New-York Mercury, June 30, 1766, p. 2, col. 3
> > > >>
> > > >>GAT
> > > >>
> > > >>George A. Thompson
> > > >>Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre",
> > > >>Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
> > > >>
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