Singing in a dialect and "Authentic pronunciation" (UNCLASSIFIED)

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 7 02:38:07 UTC 2010


I recently had a choir leader classically trained that said swap that "r" for "uh" at the end of words.  No clue why.


Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
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> Poster: Herb Stahlke
> Subject: Re: Singing in a dialect and "Authentic pronunciation"
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> Of course, trained singers have undergone a lot of training on vocal
> diction, and that determines their sung pronunciation as much as
> accent. Moreso with more training. I remember noticing back in the
> 70s the consistency with which Motown singers, who were put through
> some pretty rigorous vocal training, all dropped post-vocalic /r/. I
> don't think it was just an AAVE thing. I think it was training,
> because these singers came from all over the country.
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> Herb
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> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC
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> > Subject: Re: Singing in a dialect and "Authentic pronunciation"
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> >> IMHO, if singers lose accents in songs, and I think they do, then it
> > points
> >> toward the great amount of tonality in accents that we are not aware
> > of,
> >> because the singing takes the tonality out from native speech and
> > overrides it
> >> with the notes of the song.
> >>
> >
> > Isn't this [singing takes the tonality . . .] only one of many possible
> > explanations for why singers may lose accents in songs? For example,
> > Mel Tillis stutters while he speaks, but sings without stutter. I doubt
> > the tonality has anything to do with this. But whatever process makes
> > him not stutter while singing may also make accented singers sing more
> > neutrally.
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