Gold Medal for Antedating

[George Thompson]

"According to the September 2002 OED News, for the current revision of the OED someone antedated the word "momentum" from 1699 to pre-1150."  Fred Shapiro

Humph.

That's a record that seems safe, at least from me and my early 19th C newspapers.  And Joel can stop worrying about his "piss-house" record -- 2nd place isn't so much more honorable than 3rd that I will strive to push past him.

GAT

George A. Thompson
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
Date: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:24 pm
Subject: Gold Medal for Antedating
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

> According to the September 2002 OED News, for the current revision of
> the OED someone antedated the word "momentum" from 1699 to pre-1150.
>
> Fred Shapiro
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: American Dialect Society [ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Joel S. Berson [Berson at ATT.NET]
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:43 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: shagging & fucking (once more)
>
> At 9/5/2010 07:13 AM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> >On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 10:00:55PM -0400, George Thompson wrote:
> > > >From Jesse Sheidlower
> > >
> > > > _Shagging_ is used as a noun here, so while it doesn't
> > > > antedate the 1788 verb (although we now have a 1770 example of
> > > > the verb), it does constitute a whopping 198-year antedating
> > > > of _shagging_ n. in OED2.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is this a record?
> >
> >No, but it's very impressive.
> >
> >Joel Berson supplied a 325-year antedating for _piss-house_ on
> >this very list....
> >
> >Jesse Sheidlower
> >OED
>
> And via a secondary source on to a court transcript, George.
>
> Jesse, I haven't received my gold medal yet.  George can compete for
> the silver.
>
> Joel
>
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