"and nor" -- British, or foot-in-mouth?

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Aug 17 21:51:54 UTC 2011


At 8/17/2011 05:33 PM, ronbutters at AOL.COM wrote:
>This is just a trivisl slip of the tongue or pen, not worth anyone's
>consideration. Most likely he actually said (or meant to) say
>"and/or"--just as you mistakenly wrote "and not" and "too."

Well, not quite the same.  My "not" for "nor" is a Fingerfehler
(adjacent keys), whereas "and nor"  (or even "and not") takes
intention -- or inattention.

As also is my "too" for "took" a Fingerfehler (of omission -- and
inattention -- rather than commission).

If your response is essentially "no, there is no such community of
speakers", I wish you had said so.

Joel


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>On Aug 17, 2011, at 4:55 PM, "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
>
> > Andy Coulson ("editor of the News of the World, 2003-07") is quoted
> > by the NYTimes, Aug.17, page A3 New England Edition, as having said
> > in July 2009 to Parliament:
> >
> > "I have never condoned the use of phone hacking, and nor do I have
> > any recollection of incidences where phone hacking too place."
> >
> > (As an aside, this is not only "I avow not" but also "I don't remember".)
> >
> > As Jon L. would ask, is there a community of speakers who use "and not"?
> >
> > I vote for foot-in-mouth, considering the use of "incidences" instead
> > of "incidents".  (The possible senses of "incidence" = "incident" (in
> > sense 1) are marked by the OED as Obs., and are off-target -- don't
> > connote "event" -- anyway.)
> >
> > Joel
> >
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