"love it or leave it"

[Laurence Horn]

On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

> I see that Russell Baker reported the existence of an "America! Love It or
> Leave It!" bumper sticker in NYT on Oct. 1, 1968. He thought it a novelty.
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> That's after the riot and (heh-heh) almost 1969.
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Well, yes, but if it was showing up in greater New York in October, think how much earlier it was showing up in the real America!!

LH

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> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I believe the American Legion had been a major force in popularizing
>> the phrase in 1941, and continued to promote its use in the decades to
>> follow, including in the early to mid-60s in support of troops in
>> Vietnam.
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>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>>> You're right about the short form, Wilson.
>>>>
>>>> I'm only showing that the phrase existed long before VN, FWIW, IYKWIM.
>> YBQ
>>>> (that's four in a row) recommends a look at earlier but far less similar
>>>> words from Dorothy Parker & Gus Kahn.
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>>>> Also FWIW, my recollection is that "America: Love it or Leave it" came
>> on
>>>> the national scene only as late as 1969.  It was the same year that
>>>> conservatives hijacked the American flag for their exclusive
>> bumper-sticker
>>>> use.
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>>> I'd have guessed 1968, at least by the time of the Chicago Democratic
>> Convention in August and the backlash against opponents of the war that
>> crystallized with the widely supported "police riot" against protestors
>> there.
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