linguist

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Tue Jan 4 16:32:34 UTC 2011


Precisely. Military linguists are, among other things, interpreters. There is no need to offer a separate sub definition 'interpreter' any more than there is a need to offer a separate subentry 'transcriber' or 'language teacher'

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On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at WILTON.NET> wrote:

> The job description of the US Army MOS 98G is:
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> "The Cryptologic linguist performs and supervises detection, acquisition, location, identification, and exploitation of foreign communications a all echelons using signals equipment. Translates, transcribes, gists or produces summaries of foreign language transmissions in English/target languages."
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> Source: http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/mos/intelligence/98g.html
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> But that's not the only use for "linguists" in the military. Those military linguists who assist in arms control inspections routinely conduct consecutive and even simultaneous translation; it's a fundamental part of their job. They also assist in other diplomatic situations where Russian language interpretation is required.
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> See: http://reedline.com/Portal/DTRA_Linguists.htm
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> I always assumed that the military use of "linguist" referred to people who know more than one language. They usually function as translators, not merely interpreters. In fact, many rarely if ever serve as interpreters at all.
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> Perhaps the OED listing should remove the "interpreter" entirely. As V describes the entry, it seems to be little different from defining "dog" as 'a fice'.
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> On Jan 4, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Victor Steinbok <aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> I was puzzled to discover that OED lists "linguist n. � 3. An
>> interpreter. Obs.". There is an apparent exception made for China, where
>> the term may be "perhaps not yet obsolete". The last citation is from 1882.
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>> Yet, the term is alive an well in the US military--where it came up
>> repeatedly over the past decade in connection with the Iraq War and,
>> particularly, because of DADT that forced the removal of a number of
>> "army linguists". Language Log has had some coverage of this, but, as
>> far as I can recall, never mentioned the OED entry.
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>> The bottom line is that there is nothing obsolete about it. It might
>> have been restricted to jargon and regionalism (e.g., China), but it is
>> still being used regularly.
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