Some London slang terms - origins?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jul 10 21:40:43 UTC 2011

I could make some, IMO, "Informed," WAG's, but why bother? It would be
sheer coincidence, if my guesses turned out to be at all useful. Isn't
there some clue somewhere as to how these terms are used?

All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Damien Hall <D.Hall at> wrote:
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> A friend, Paul Kerswill, has asked me to cross-post the following query here. Â I've told him about the thread here on 'mommanem' some years ago, as 'mandem' in his list reminded me of it. Â If anyone can help Paul, please copy both him and the list in on your replies. Â Paul's e-mail is
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> and he's copied in here too.
> "LONDON TEENAGE SLANG: Does anyone know the *origins* of: olders, bare, safe, blud/blad, bruv, yute, rude, boy, ends, mandem, boys dem, still, sweet?
> By ‘origins’ I obviously mean etymology, but of greater concern to me is the route by which they entered London and also their current status there.
> These crop up in our London teenage corpora. Urban Dictionary isn’t much help with most of them!"
> Thanks!
> Damien
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> Damien Hall
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